An email was posted to a group of people on December 29th by one of the
hotmail people claiming to be time travellers. A copy was not sent to me at
that time, but a friend forwarded a copy. The method and comments follow the
Now it's time for all 'Time Travellers'
to FISH or CUT BAIT.
Open Challenge to ANY 'Time Travellers' - 01/13/98
This challenge is a result of claims from what purports to be more than one
person, though it is being extended to ANY one person or group who claim to be
able to actually travel in time, whether physical or mental.
The claim from TVC is there are several time travellers, all using aliases
that are non-traceable addresses.
The person claiming to be in direct contact with these TVC time travellers
purports to be a Jesse Stewart (the name given, not known to be factual).
If ANYONE can TRULY traverse time at will, whether MENTALLY or PHYSICALLY,
they have an opportunity to prove their CLAIMS to a section of the InterNet
community who most appreciate honesty in claims and actions.
Initial Proposed Test
In my personal experience, many free energy claimants refuse to back up their
claims, using some of the following reasons;
- Travel forward in time at least two full 24 hour days.
- Acquire a future newspaper (not magazine) or watch a TV newscast and
either cut out the news item or copy the details on a notepad.
- Bring back that detailed and dated information.
- Have that information notarized, provide the source of the information
(who, what, when, where of TV broadcast or newspaper name)
- Photocopy the proof and mail copies to a list of preselected, absolutely
trustworthy, public individuals.
- Mail the sealed copies parcel post (the slowest) the day before the event
is to happen.
the technology is still under development
fear of suppression by governments or vested interests
fear of loss of the invention to investors or rivals
unwillingness to trust others to replicate and verify
unwillingness to trust others in business dealings
something broke or went out of calibration/balance
I/we don't HAVE to prove anything to YOU or ANYONE else
Note: it is one thing to post theories, concepts or speculation, but outright
CLAIMS of RESULTS require proof on the part of the claimant
Time Travellers, here is your chance to PROVE your claims. Perhaps you have a
better test? Please let's post it and give the time travellers some
options to choose from.
What's in it for you, the time traveller? What could we possibly offer
someone who could PREDICT THE FUTURE. You and anyone reading this is invited
to post ideas - some kind of reward other than just being honest (since that's
what makes the world go around 'in our time')?
If you have any suggestions for further proofs of actual time travel, please
email your time travel claim test
ideas so we can publicly post them. Let's get them to either fish or let
them continue to cut bait to feed the gullible.
(but we can still make all the claims we want because people will JUST believe
us and take our word for it)
Why Time Vector Chronicles are no
longer posted at Keelynet - 12/31/97
Recently, I chose to remove the Time Vector Chronicles from KeelyNet as
detailed in the following emails. I have had two emails asking what happened
to them (one being the next day and probably a troll). So, I decided to just
post the emails (sans addresses).
The following email was sent after I read the time travel 'Technical Overview
Disappointment with Aliens in a Time Tech document
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 04:39:02 -0800
To: Joe Stewart
Subject: Re: Second Copy - 'Technical Overview #2" Time Vector Field Ch
Well, read through the #2 article....it is very disappointing. I won't
post it on KeelyNet unless the comments about aliens/grays and all that
mess is removed.
The recent post about the Secret Commonwealth is about the closest we've
come to anything remotely alien, but it speaks of native, non-human races
that have a near mythic history.
Time travel is one thing, the rest sounds like filler that I just want no
part of. You can edit out the alien material or I can do it and send to
you for review. That kind of material is just too ridiculous to post in
a file that is supposed to be about the technology of time travel.
Sorry, I'd just rather not post it here if it continues to degrade to
alien descriptions. Happy Holidays!
Time Tech 2 Going Elsewhere
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 97 09:06:28 -0500
From: Joe Stewart
To: Jerry Decker
Subject: Re: Second Copy - 'Technical Overview #2" Time Vector Fi
Thanks for telling me how you feel. Sorry if you don't like the material, but
this is the information that was given to me and it has been read several
times by the time travelers. To post just a portion of the material would make
the interview incomplete and would be very dissapointing to them.
We'll post 'Technical Overview #2" elsewhere. Thanks for your previous
support. Best to you and keelynet
Joe (Jesse) Stewart
Removal of all TVC files
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:55:45 -0800
To: Joe Stewart
Subject: Re: Re: Second Copy - 'Technical Overview #2" Time Vector Fi
I'll remove the other time travel files also since the truth has now come
out...thanks and Happy Holidays!
Next Day Query about TVC files
My concerns about Anomalies
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 12:49:09 -0800
Subject: Re: time travel
This is probably a troll but I have no problem relating what happened and
I chose to remove the 'TVC' files related to that particular story because of
the most recent post, claimed to be 'tech' yet, was fully 1/2 about grays,
aliens, changelings, Philadelphia Experiment, scalars and associated garbage.
Some of which looked to have been 'lifted' from other sources. Keelynet does
not 'do' aliens, grays and such pap.
I asked Joe to please edit this material to keep it on topic (time travel
technology) and he replied saying they would find another place to post it.
When I was first approached about this particular storyline, I was quite
skeptical....partly because Joe admitted he wanted to 'practice his writing
skills', partly because he said he would use these 'interviews' to 'hone his
It was like pulling teeth to get a technical document which is after all, what
KeelyNet tries to focus on. The earlier documents had many suspicious
comments that had nothing to do with the storyline (but I posted them anyway)
yet this one was so far out of bounds that I could not post it here.
Just so. Hoaxers abound on the InterNet and I do hate games. We have a
specific purpose for being here and putting up with all the hassles from
people trying to promote their own agendas (especially aliens, UFOs, patriot
and conspiracy material). They try to do this by using a target audience such
as KeelyNet has acquired over many years by being as straightforward as
In truth, I don't think any of this particular time travel storyline was real.
Too much mystery, too much additional non-related information, too much
'artistic license', no concept of what technical details means. It took me
from January to about July to decide to go ahead and give them a shot.
I don't particularly care about time travel information as KeelyNet concerns
are stated quite clearly; gravity control, overunity and alternative health.
There are some bridge subjects that are difficult to ignore and time (being
related to gravity) is necessarily one of them. There will be others who will
be more open and truthful, we shall wait....seeya!
Inconsistencies & Caveats
From : Anonymous (requested)
Subject: another one bites the dust
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 21:16:56 -0800
Thanks for your detailed message concerning my question as to what happened
to the "Time Vector Field Chronicles".
I started having doubts about "Jesse Stewart" for the following reasons:
Well, at least his stories were imaginative and entertaining.
P.S. You should really create a "Beware of Joe/Jesse Stewart" .htm file so
other "weird science" webmasters/enthusiasts don't get sucked into this crap.
The thing that bothered me the most is that ALL the e-mail addresses
(stewarts, "sir thomas", pete savage, and "the colonel" are from hotmail-like
they are hiding their true I.S.P. web/e-mail addresses).
da da, dumb, dumb, dumb, another bites the dust!
1 - In his original story, he claims his "temponaut" friends experimented
with Bajak's Flux Capacitor and all they got was an ear-piercing shrill coming
out of the piezo speaker (this, in itself, is bullshit because this "flux
capacitor" uses D.C.).
2 - Some time afterward, I received an e-mail from him asking for people to
make their own "flux capacitor" circuitry, test it, then e-mail him with the
results (why the hell would his friends want others to test it when they
3 - I replied, with an e-mail to him, that John Bajak had untreated
schizophrenia during the time he had his so-called temporal displacement. I
sent this to him after receiving his e-mail mentioned in item #2.
4 - I received a SECOND e-mail similar to the first one mentioned in item
#2. Shit, this guy doesnt give up does he?!
So, ladies and gentlemen, CHECK YOUR SOURCES...If they can't or won't give you
additional contact information or you cannot get outside verification, your
chain is probably being pulled. Don't do what I did recently by posting a
fake death that some jerk dreamed up to get back at an F/E experimenter.
Trust is no longer something you can automatically extend to people as a basic
courtesy. You are setting yourself up to be screwed.